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Name: Keno
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Subject: RE: Are we living in a post-Rock 'N' Roll culture?
Date: Friday, September 21, 2018
Time: 12:05:20 PM
Remote Address: 97.107.69.29
Message ID: 317664
Parent ID: 317659
Thread ID: 317653
No Fatmo, that wasn't how it was in the '50s. What you had back then were the elders were putting it down, yes indeed, but they were putting down something brand new that they didn't understand or know anything about it, since rock music was brand new back then and they were flat out afraid of it and didn't know how to deal with it and the kids making it. Yet the '50s music was not only very young and growing, but it was excellent and would only grow and get better in 10 to 15 years time.
What you get today is not the same thing with us elders who put down the modern day rock music. One thing different is that us elders today were the kids of the '50s and '60s, we were the ones who created and played rock music first and the first to listen to it and understand it all, and love it. Today we don't dislike it because we don't get what it's about, we totally see what it is and what it's full of (or a better word be what it's "lacking"), and sadly, the new rock of the early 21st century blows. It is lacking the very thing that '50s and then '60s and early '70s music was full of, that being both energy and feeling (other than new metal music today isn't lacking energy at all, it's problem is that it may have too much energy to it).
As much as most people my age hate rap and hip-hop, while I'm not crazy about it, I don't totally hate it. The one thing I can say about it, is that it actually isn't lacking feeling in its lyrics, but it's totally lacking energy with the music that comes with it. Hip-hop music flat out sucks while it's lyrics are sometimes okay in about half of what I get to hear. Since I'm raising my very last kid and he's a teenager now, I get to hear this stuff coming from his room - especially in the last few month when he got new and very loud stereo speakers. He's into both the new hip hop and new country music. There is different kinds of hip-hop music, too, believe it or not, as I have heard the difference first hand. His older "brother" Zack (not blood, but our former "kid boarder" as I called him, he lived with us for 10 years while his dad still paid for his upbringing), was into speed metal when he first lived here (another genre I knew well thanks first to my youngest daughter and then her 2 kids), but around the time Zack became a teen he got into hip hop - the gangster rap crap form of hip-hop, and I disliked that stuff. Every other word of the lyrics was "fuck this" and "fuck that" or "fuck her" followed by the n word which was used even more often. That to me was insulting stuff, and I also noticed the music his rap had in it had elements of speed metal music to it, too. This kid turns 21 this week and he's living up in Denver today, and when he comes by for a visit now I see that he's more into the same hip-hop today that my grandson is into, a much more mellow hip-hop I'll note with much cleaner lyrics to it. The boy, just like his dad who's my age, is a musician and been one since he lived here years ago. He plays several different instruments and thanks to that he's in a band and at least knows what music is and how to make and write music himself (unlike most of his peers). So even the young kids of today can grow up and change the sound of the lyrics and music that they are playing. But will they? That's the question.
Yet the rap/hip-hop of today still is inferior to the rock music of the '50s thru the '70s. The rock music of the '80s or '90s that Skinhead Sinead O'Connor performed herself was really just as poor as today's rap music is. Yes, they at least had musicians in their bands in the '90s, but the bands of that middle rock era were lacking in skills big time too, IMO. Today in modern rock music there is no musical talent at all it seems, they just let a damn computer generate the noise they call music and settle for that. Lyric wise things have gotten a bit better in the last 2 to 4 years, as the words I hear coming out of my kid's speakers today are not as offensive as what I was hearing just 6 to 8 years ago when Zack lived here with us. But is it post Rock music? No, not at all is what I would say, it's still in the rock genre, but it's just inferior music, that's all.... Plus I guess the other question that goes hand in hand with your question would be an old one I've been hearing since the '80s, and that is "Is rock music dead today?". No is still my answer - but it could be replaced in the future with something new if it doesn't grow and change into a better form that what it changed into back in the '80s and '90s. If it don't change soon, then that is when we just might see post rock music come about.
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