Name: Keno
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Subject: Poll Post for the week starting Monday, May 8
Date: Monday, May 8, 2023
Time: 1:14:31 AM
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Poll Post for the week starting Monday, May 8

Its Poll Post time, so let’s get our weekly polls off and running (late), and we’ll first look at the Stones poll, where we’ve been rating their songs for 130 weeks now, and overall, it’s Stones Poll week 1,239 of us voting in this poll…… This week’s question asks this: Rate the Stones song “ Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)”, from zero (lowest) to 10 (highest).

“Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)” (L), Clifford Glover, the boy killed (R) The Pig who killed him for no reason and who got away with it (in center of pic)

"Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)" was first worked on in November & December of 1972, then recorded with brand new lyrics in May and June of '73. Released on Goats Head Soup in 1973, it also was released as a U.S. single in '73, the second single from GHS (the first single, "Angie", hit No. 1), with "Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)" reaching No. 15 on the Billboard Hot 100 (it hit #16 in Sweden, the only other place it was released as a single).

The song is partly based on true events, as the Stones take a rare moral stand on the plight of preteen children. No, this band isn't known for too many such songs, but the first part of this one took aim at the New York City police, after they killed a 10-year-old black boy (Clifford Glover) who was out jogging in Queens with his father. They mistook the small boy for a much larger male adult who had just robbed a cabbie and whom they were looking for, so said the trigger-happy white police officer Thomas Shea, who fired the fatal shot which killed the young child (Shea shot the boy in the back as he was jogging down the sidewalk, and the bullet entered Glover's lower back and emerged at the top of his chest, going through his heart, killing him instantly), after the two didn't stop running when the undercover policemen told them to stop. The father later told investigators that they never heard the police call out to them and didn’t know who they were. Shea claimed the unarmed boy was pulling out a gun when he fired the fatal shot at him (of course, no gun or any other kind of weapons were ever found). In the end, Shea was put on trial for murder, but the all-white jury acquitted him and he was declared not guilty on June 12, 1974. Shea was the first New York City police officer ever to be tried for murder while on duty, and he got away with the unjust killing of a child. The boy to date, is the youngest person ever killed by the NYPD.

It has also been said that the second part of the song, about a 10-year-old girl dying from a heroin overdose, was also true (however, this has never been confirmed by Jagger and is believe a falsehood by most Stones insiders). But, a former journalist named Janet Cooke, wrote an article titled “Jimmy's World”, about an eight-year-old heroin addict in Philadelphia, and for which she earned a Pulitzer Prize for in 1981. But it was then found to be a totally false, made-up story, after local social service workers, who were looking for this child named Jimmy, to help him. But Cooke wouldn’t tell them where the boy could be found. In a short time, Cooke confessed after their repeated demands for the boy and them telling her that she would be charged with aiding in child abuse of the child for hiding him from them. So she had to tell them that she made up the story, with her claiming she got the idea for her made up story in part from this Stones song about the 10 year old girl. Talk about a true fool!... Some fans also insist that Jagger isn't even singing about a 10-year-old in the song and that the lyrics to the song were just printed in error and that what Mick is singing there is not "A 10 year old girl on a street corner, sticking needles in an arm ", but instead he's singing "Then you're over on a street corner, sticking needles in an arm".

The lineup for this one was: Lead Vocal: Mick Jagger; Fuzz Guitar with Wah Wah Pedal: Mick Taylor; Bass Guitar: Keith Richards; Drums: Charlie Watts; Saxophones: Jim Horn and Bobby Keys; Trumpets: Chuck Findley and Jim Price; Piano & Organ: Billy Preston; Backing Vocals: Mick Jagger, Keith Richards & Mick Taylor. The song’s Producer was Jimmy Miller. Bill Wyman didn’t play on the song. To rate this song, just click on the following link: Stones Weekly Poll.

Last week at the Stones Poll, we rated the song noted in this question: Rate the Stones song “I Got the Blues”, from zero (lowest) to 10 (highest).

“I Got the Blues”from Sticky Fingers

First, I made a misstatement last week when I was talking about “I Got the Blues” and the Sticky Fingers LP. I was very pleased to note that with us rating “I Got the Blues”, that this was the first Stones LP that we now would have rated all the songs on. But I only found out tonight that I was mistaken, there’s still now one more song to rate on the LP, that being ““You Gotta Move”, so yes, we still have one song to go, and the next time we get back to the MT era of the band, in 4 weeks’ time, we for sure will rate that one and then, yes, I can finally make that claim. But for “I Got the Blues” last week, well, it became the only song on that great, masterpiece album, to not score a 10 rating for its top pick, and instead saw a 9 for its top rating. Just missed! Oh well, a 9 is still a great rating, but it would have been cool to see every song on at least one Stones LP, score all 10s for their top picks on every single song on an album, and now sadly, that will never happen. But the SF LP is still a masterpiece, there’s no question about that! To see the full, finial results from this poll, just click on: Stones Weekly Poll - week 1,238. To see just where in the Stones song rating standings this one landed, just click here: Stones Song Ratings & Standings - List Page 5.

Okay, for our second weekly poll, the Beatles Poll – which enters week 628 of voting and week 62 of rating Beatle songs, we'll ask: Rate the Beatles song “Don't Let Me Down”, from zero (lowest) to 10 (highest).

“Don't Let Me Down” Picture sleeve for the 1989 UK reissue

“Don't Let Me Down” was written by John Lennon in 1969 and credited to the Lennon/McCartney writing team and mainly recorded on January 28, 1969 at the Beatles Apple Studios in London, and then finished up a few weeks later in February. It was then released as a B side single on 11 April 1969 (in the UK), and on May 5, 1969 (in the U.S.). Paul McCartney noted that the song was a "genuine plea", with Lennon saying to Ono, whom he wrote it for, to say, as McCartney noted: "I'm really stepping out of line on this one. I'm really just letting my vulnerability be seen, so you must not let me down.", as Lennon had just left his first wife for Ono. The single’s A side, Get Back went to #1 while “Don't Let Me Down”, like several other Beatle B sides before it, also charted (and which is rare for just about any other artist’s B sides songs), landing at #35 on the Billboard Hot 100 official U.S. chart. It was then released on the U.S. Beatle compilation album Hey Jude in 1970 an album that was also released in most other countries - other than in the UK, where it never saw the light of day. The song also showed up on other Beatle compilation LPs including 1967–1970 and Past Masters Volume 2.

The lineup for this tune was: John Lennon – Lead Vocal, Rhythm Guitar; Paul McCartney – Bass Guitar, Harmony Vocal; George Harrison – Lead Guitar, Backing Vocal; Ringo Starr – Drums; with Billy Preston playing Electric Piano…. Okay, now it’s time to rate this one… To do so in this week's Beatles poll, just click on this link: Beatles Weekly Poll.

At last week’s Beatle Poll, I asked and you answered thisRate the Beatles song “Hello, Goodbye”, from zero (lowest) to 10 (highest).

“Hello, Goodbye” From the Beatles' Revolver album

So, like most of the Fab songs that we have rated so far, “Hello, Goodbye” saw a 10 as its top rating and I know that none of you expected it to score less than that. It took in 37.2% of the 10 vote, which for a Beatle rated song, it had a low 10 percentage rating and actually scored almost the same as the song we rated 2 weeks ago, “Good Day Sunshine”… To see if it beat out that song in the song standings (it’s listed right next to it in those standings, but is it above or below it?). Just click on the following link to see exactly where this song landed: The Beatles Song Ratings and Standings Page . Or, to take a look at the poll’s full, finial results, just go there: Beatles Poll, week 627.

BTW, the Beatle song last week really outpolled our Stones song – once again, and by well over 100 votes. So Stones fans, I know you still read this Poll Post every week, but so many of you, really most of you who read this post each week, don’t vote (unlike the Fab fans who almost all vote). So please, how about voting to even out the number of votes the Stones poll sees compared to the Beatles poll votes? Plus, to you Beatle fans, thanks so much for showing up every week and always voting! Actually, even in the old days when Gasland was still open, my fellow Stones fans just never voted in the numbers that the Fab fans voted in. But with that I’ll note that you former Gassers who are now lurkers here (thanks to me closing down their favorite board, since I couldn’t run it any longer thanks to my health declining), and yet you guys still show up every week to see what I have to say once a week. Well, I guess that’s why you still show up, as the still strong page views here are hard for me to believe for this now long closed board. So yes, I do appreciate that! Plus, some of you here this week, are more than likely seeing what I’ll have to say about the Rock n Roll Hall’s list of new inductees just announced, as I always found the time to bitch once a year about the usually bad picks at the end of this weekly post. But sorry, in the last 3 years since I was diagnosed with my main illness that I will never recover from, I’ve seen a new light (a non-religious one of course) and I don’t even let somebody like Trump or any other politicians, bother me anymore. But it’s not just politics, either. I won’t let the Rock Hall and their yearly poor choices for inductees, bug me anymore. Nothing really bugs me these days, but the things that I always loved, I still love (I’m really just an average guy when it comes to those kind of things). But when my time is up, I don’t wish to go out bitching about anything, and won’t. The old Zen part of me that was in control of me a few years ago, has returned at the best time it could have done so and is once again taking over me, and to that I say, “lucky me!”.

I was supposed to have another surgery this Wednesday, but Monday morning, which is actually here already as I type this out, I’m calling up the hospital and calling off the surgery. It’s a waste of time at this point and not really gonna help me any, so why go thru it? So I’m not, and my kids all support me and understand how I feel. My best friend who I’ve spoken about a lot here in the past and whom I’ve known since we were both boys in NY (I’m not noting his name this time), is also not well and on his way out and has totally stop his cancer treatments, other than he’s still taking his RSO oil daily. He totally believes in this stuff, but studies show that it only works with chemo and/or radiation treatment, and he’s not doing that stuff. But it’s his choice and I support him, even if it more than likely will end in his passing, since it rarely works just on its own. But I understand that unlike CBD oil, which doesn’t really get you high, this stuff totally gets one wasted and many who aren’t ill use it regularly. I’ve never had it before myself and don’t really plan to try it, since my THC days are long over now. But then again, you don’t smoke RSO, and with my failing lungs, I can’t smoke, so I could take this other stuff, but deep down I really don’t want to as those stoner days are over for me. Yeah, me and my daughter ate some pot gummies last Xmas and that was nice, but unless things change and they won’t, anything that will increases my heart rate could kill me fast, so since THC does that to everybody, those days are over for me. Let me tell ya, a bad heart and bad lungs are not a good combo at all, and since I never smoke tobacco, I don’t understand how my lungs got so messed up. Bad hearts do run in my family, but not bad lungs. Hell, my dad smoked tobacco into his 50s, and lived to be 87 and had no lung problems when his time was up. Yet my doctors tell me my lungs are like the lungs of a 30-year smoker. I just don’t get it! Anyway, enough of this talk.

To close out this Poll Post, no, I’m not doing it this week in the normal way I’ve been closing it since ’96, as I didn’t close it out with the personal stuff last, as I already just wrote above about that. I decided to close it this week with the info and links from the now closed weekly Rock Poll. Yeah, I’ll close with that, so here’s a link to the old weekly Rock Poll's archives: Rock Poll's Archive Pages and of course, a link to get you to all of the Rock List Pages lists, with the results from these polls (about 98% of them that we voted on), in total 18 pages of them, starting with the very first Rock List Page 1, here. Plus of course, the Ongoing Rock Polls are also still running and active, so remember, you can vote in those polls once a year. You can find these polls and vote in them here: Poll Menu Page! Hum, that seems like a weird way to close out this post, but I’m liking changes a lot of late, But yes, that will do it for this week’s post and thanks to all of you who voted in last week’s polls and plan to vote in this week’s polls, too! I hope everybody has a happy week ahead! Oh, and sorry this got posted so late, its just happened that way for the last 2 weeks now.

Keno

• Poll Post for the week starting Monday, May 8 by Keno on 5/8/2023 1:14:31 AM <-- You Are Here
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