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Subject: Poll Post for the week starting Monday, June 13
Date: Sunday, June 12, 2022
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Poll Post for the week starting Monday, June 13

Well, talk about cutting it close, as I only got this week’s new polls up and published at almost 730 pm Mountain Time, just 2 and a half hours before they were supposed to start up! No question that’s the latest I’ve ever went in doing this, thanks to my old age memory issues, I just totally forgot that I never built the polls this week, which is something I usually automatically do each Saturday morning. But anyway, they’re up and ready to go now, so for this week’s Poll Post, where I write about the 3 new weekly polls, I’ll start off as usual talking about the Stones weekly poll first, where we’ll enter week 1,193 of voting and week 84 of rating the Stones songs. So, this week’s question asks this: Rate the Stones song 'Shine a Light', from zero (lowest) to 10 (highest).

“Shine a Light” Mick Jagger’s song to Brian Jones

First recorded as "Get A Line On You" in March of 1968, the lyrics, written by Mick Jagger, were rewritten by he in early 1970, about 6 months after Brian Jones died, as both the old and new lyrics were about Brian. The song, now retitled "Shine a Light", was re-recorded in July of 1970, and then recorded yet again in March of '72 and released on the Exile On Main Street LP in 1972.

"Get A Line On You" was never released. The main music used on this song and its successor, came from Leon Russell, who plays the excellent piano on the unreleased version of the song, but he wasn't credited for his writing on either version. Russell noted that Jagger first heard his music used on the song, while in the studio with Russell while he was recording one of his solo songs. Jagger told him he loved the music and wanted to use it on a Stones song, he then invited Russell to the Stones next session to play that music with the band, and he did, but he was never credited by Jagger/Richards or paid a dime for his work after the song was released as “Shine a Light” a few years later, and he wasn’t at all happy about this fact. Russell flat out called what happened a theft of his work by Jagger/Richards (so what else is new?).

Now while we aren't rating the original take of this song, I myself like it better than what was later release as SAL. I like Jagger's vocal on the first take better, and Keith Richards' electric guitar sounds a good light year better than Mick Taylor's more mellow playing on the released version, and along with Jones’ slide (which also sounds cool), this first take was clearly a guitar driven Stones song, whereas the remake, which Richards didn't play on (nor did Charlie Watts), we hear instead an organ driven song, and besides the 2 missing guitars from the original take, it's also missing that wonderful, driving Russell piano, as with Billy Preston now on the organ on SAL, the song's music went from sounding like a true rock song, to sounding more like church music when it was released. The original lineup for the '68 version of what would become SAL in time, was recorded at Keith's house (Redlands), with the following personnel: Vocals: Mick Jagger; Electric Guitar: Keith Richards; Slide Guitar: Brian Jones; Bass Guitar: Bill Wyman; Drums: Charlie Watts; Keyboards: Leon Russell. It is not known if Jones knew that this song was written about him at the time. It was noted that both Jimmy Miller and Watts took turns on the drums at Redlands, but if you listen to the song's boot, found here:, it sounds for sure like it's Charlie drumming on this take, as there was a major difference between how Charlie sounded when he played and how Jimmy sounded when he played drums. Also, since I've seen this nonsense noted at YouTube in some of the comment pages, that it was Ringo Starr playing the drums on this song. Well, I read in those same comments that this was claimed in some book. I don't know of the book in question, but this is total bullshit and a falsehood that in the last few years has seem to have gotten some fools to believe it’s true. The bottom line is that Ringo Starr isn't playing on this song and never played on any Stones songs. Period!

For the released version of SAL, which is linked to at the voting page, and is the only take we are rating this week, Jagger went and changed some of the lyrics to reflect on the fact that Brian was no longer alive, with one of those changes, he was almost making it sound somewhat religious and he was now clearly making this song about his departed friend and bandmate: “May the good Lord, shine a light on you, make every song your favorite tune” and he changed one repeated line in the original lyrics from “flash a light on you” to “ shine a light on you”, and made that lyric the new title to the song.

Here's the final lineup for the released version of the song: Lead Vocal: Mick Jagger; Electric Guitar: Mick Taylor: Bass Guitar: Bill Wyman; with Jimmy Miller on Drums, Billy Preston on Piano & Organ, and the Backing Vocals sung by Clydie King, Joe Green, Venetta Field & Jesse Kirkland. To rate this week’s song, just click on the following link: Stones Weekly Poll.

Last week at the Stones poll we voted on this question: Rate the Stones song “Street Fighting Man” , from zero (lowest) to 10 (highest).

“Street Fighting Man” 45 Single U.S. cover (L), French single cover (R)

I don’t have to tell you that this song received a 10 rating, only question is, just how high a 10 rating did it receive? Did it make the Top 5 in the standings? Well yes, it did. Did it see the Top 3 perhaps, or even take the Top spot? Well, it did take in 99% of the vote, and that is the third highest 10 rating for a Stones song. So, there’s your answer, but if you are wondering what 2 songs scored even better than SFM’s 99% (hint: all 3 songs were released in 1968)? Well, first, to see the full, final results from this poll, just click here: Stones Weekly Poll - week 1,192. Or, to see what the 2 songs are that are ahead of SFM in the rating standings, just click on the following link to find out: Stones Song Ratings & Standings - List Page 5.

Okay, time to look this week’s Classic Rock Poll, where we enter week 832 of polling, and this week’s question is this: What's the greatest rock duo/duet ever recorded? (Part 2 of 4).

Rock duo/duet songs

Well just like last week in Part 1 of this question, we got some more wonderful duo/duets to choose from. Looks like overall we will have 2 more songs to vote on than what I noted last week in Parts 2 and 3, since I only realized after hearing on the news last week of the passing of Jim Seals (RIP), who was of course half of the 1970s soft-rock duo Seals and Crofts. No question that they should have been listed in this poll, as they had 3 or 4 big hits while together, so in Parts 2 and 3 their 2 biggest songs will now be listed. Just goes to show that no matter how much I know about rock music, it’s impossible to recall all of the songs for a poll like this one no matter how big a hit a song might have been.

Now, if you missed last week post about Part 1 of this question, and would like to know the differences between the 2 words, duo/duets, you can read what I wrote last week on this and a few other things that I noted that we are covering in this poll, by clicking on last week’s Poll Post, instead of me rewriting all of that again here.

We have 25 songs to consider this week in Part 2 of this poll, so let's see the ones we will choose from this time around by clicking on this link: Classic Rock Poll .

Last week we answered this question at the Rock Poll: What's the greatest rock duo/duet ever recorded? (Part 1 of 4).

Rock duo/duet songs

The top 8 songs that will appear in Part 4 to go up against the top song that we will pick in Parts 2 and 3, took in just under 80% of all the songs that we voted on, so clearly, they were the best picks from the 24 that we voted on. BTW, starting this week when I list such songs here, since the percentages of the vote usually means nothing here anymore, thanks to the large number of voters we now have taking part in our polls, I will instead list how many votes each pick got instead. Those 8 songs from last week are: The Sound of Silence - Simon & Garfunkel (334 votes); Ticket to Ride - John Lennon & Paul McCartney (w/ the Beatles) (325 votes); Dead Flowers - Mick Jagger & Keith Richards (w/ the Stones) (321 votes); I Got You Babe - Sonny & Cher (318 votes); All I Have to Do Is Dream - The Everly Brothers (317 votes); Mockingbird - Carly Simon & James Taylor (316 votes); America - Simon & Garfunkel (314 votes), and Baby's in Black - John Lennon & Paul McCartney (w/ the Beatles) (also 314 votes).

To see the rest of the results from this poll, including the percentages, just click on the following link: Classic Rock Poll, week 831.

Time to finish up this Poll Post talking about this week’s Beatles Poll, where we enter week 583 of voting and the 17th week of rating the Beatle songs. This week’s question will ask: Rate the Beatles song, “Something”, from zero (lowest) to 10 (highest).

“Something”, from the Beatles film promo clip noted below, showing George Harrison and his first wife, Pattie Boyd. But no, the song wasn't about Pattie at all.

"Something" is a song by the Beatles, written by George Harrison, and found on their 1969 album Abbey Road. It was one of George's two contributions to the LP ("Here Comes the Sun" was the other one). Two weeks after the album's release, the song was issued on a double A-side single with "Come Together", making it the first Harrison composition to become a Beatles A-side. The song topped the Billboard chart in the U.S, as well as on charts in Australia, Canada, New Zealand and West Germany, while it peaked at number 4 in the UK. John Lennon called it the best song on AR. It was considered a love song to Pattie Boyd by most, Harrison's first wife, after Boyd noted this herself (more than once), but George said later on it wasn't about her. He said he wrote the song wanting to write a song in the style that Ray Charles wrote and sang in, and that Ray was actually his inspiration for the song. In 1996, Harrison flat out denied writing "Something" for Boyd, as he told a music journalist that "everybody presumed I wrote it about Pattie because of the promotional film accompanying the release of the Beatles' recording" (which showed a lot of the couple together). Yet Pattie was still claiming this song was about her as late as 2007, in her autobiography. (Now some PS bullshit that I must include the following here to use the above CR photo: “Something”, Promotional Film, Fair use:

The lineup for this song was: George Harrison - Lead Vocal, Lead and Rhythm Guitars; John Lennon - Piano, Backing Vocal; Paul McCartney - Bass Guitar, Backing Vocal; Ringo Starr - Drums; with Billy Preston - Organ; and with unidentified session musicians playing 12 violins, 4 violas, 4 cellos, and a string bass. George Martin was of course the song's producer and took care of the string arrangements.

To vote in this week's Beatles poll and rate this song, just click on this link: Beatles Weekly Poll.

Last week at the Beatles poll we answered this question: Rate the Beatles song, “Girl”, from zero (lowest) to 10 (highest).

“Girl”by the Fabs

So, just how high in the standings did last week’s 10 rating of this song go? Well, “Girl” saw 94.4% of the vote, and that’s the second highest 10 rating of a Beatle’s song, ever. So, there’s your answer! But to see the full, final results from this poll, just click on here: Beatles Weekly Poll – week 582. Plus, you can also check out the results and standings at The Beatles Song Ratings and Standings page, located at the domain’s Lennon site.

So that will do it for talking about this week’s new polls in the Poll Post…. I got my veggie garden planted outside on Friday, which seems to be almost the same day I start my garden each year. I was thinking several weeks ago that this year, since my tomato plants, that I start growing inside my home from seeds each spring, were ready to be planted outside, that I would be able to do so earlier this year, like on Memorial Day weekend, since we were seeing temps well above average in the first 2 weeks of May and had (for our area) little snow this spring. As it is, where I live, we have the latest startup date for gardens in the USA, which is June 1 on average, and in some years that’s even too early. So anyway, my plans to get the growing outside early this year changed when a cold spell hit and we had 2 days of snow falling and accumulating on the ground on Memorial Day weekend. Lot’s of people all over most of Colorado who planted early this year, wished they hadn’t (with up to a foot of snow falling in the northern part of the state; even Denver got several inches), but for me, being the weatherman, well I did see it coming a day before and no, I didn’t have to share in the headaches some of my neighbors had to endure (but I did try to warn them at my weather page, too!). But it warmed up again right after that and yesterday (Saturday), it hit 90 degrees here (yuck!), one of the earliest seen 90-degree days ever seen here for our area (but I was out of town the entire day, and where I was it was even hotter, at 92 degrees! I would have stayed home if I knew it was gonna get that hot!). I just hope this isn’t a sign of things to come this summer, as we usually only see one 90-degree day here per year, as it is. But anyway, I hope it is cool wherever you live (unless you live down under and you want it to be warm this time of the year). But I hope that you all have a great week ahead and aren’t in any pain like I’m in tonight (I broke a bone Saturday nite when I got back home, which I’m not gonna get into, other than to say, damn it’s still hurting like hell tonight!).


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