Name: Keno
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Subject: Poll Post for the week starting Monday, Nov 23
Date: Monday, November 23, 2020
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Poll Post for the week starting Monday, Nov 23

Time to get this week’s Poll Post for our 4 weekly polls running by starting off talking about the Stones poll, which enters week 1,112 of voting, and we will vote on this new question: Rate the Rolling Stones single release 'You Better Move On', from 1 (lowest) to 10 (highest)

Stones’ “You Better Move On” , single

The fourth week asking this question and for this week we look at the band’s fourth released single (A side), that being their cover of “You Better Move On”. This one was written by Arthur Alexander, who had a #24 hit with it in 1961. For the Stones, this release took place on January 17, 1964. The Stones lineup for this song was: Mick Jagger – lead vocals; Brian Jones – main guitar (acoustic) and backing vocal; Bill Wyman – bass guitar and backing vocal; Charlie Watts – drums; and Keith Richards barely played on this song, with just a few sparse electric guitar riffs played by he on this number. Not sure why he didn’t at least sing the harmony with the other 2, as a third backing vocalist could have been used on this one.

Now don’t forget that when you go to vote, that if you visit the link to the song listed at the voting page, that we are not rating videos here, so forget what you are seeing when viewing the film clip, and just rate the song only. The video link is only there so you can hear the song before you rate the tune. To rate this one, just click on the following link: Stones Weekly Poll.

Last week at the Stones poll we answered this question: Rate the Rolling Stones single release ”Not Fade Away”, from 1 (lowest) to 10 (highest)

Stones’ “Not Fade Away” , single

The answer we responded with, was to rate this song a 10 as it’s top pick, with 32.9% of the vote. To see the full results from this poll, just click here: Stones Weekly Poll - week 1,111. Or, to see the results to this poll at the Stones List Page, just visit this page: Stones Top Picks, List Page 2, the result will be at the very bottom of the page under “Miscellaneous Stones’ Lists”. In time when we have more results from this question, this series will have its own slot listed on the page, but for now this is where the results will be placed for the time being.

Let’s now take a look at this week’s Classic Rock Poll, where we enter week 752 of polling, and for this one, we’ll vote in 2 different Rock Polls for the week. In this week’s first regular Rock poll, we ask this: What was the best cello heard in a rock song?

This week, we are voting on cellos only, just don’t confuse it with a double bass

This week’s question has 36 choices, and normally when we have that many choices for a poll question, the question is turned into a multi-week 3-part poll. But for this one we'll just vote on these choices all in one week (since breaking up the songs into different parts, is a lot of extra work, and I had no desire to do that last week), so I’ll just run it as a normal single week question. Plus, yes, this is also Thanksgiving week in the U.S., a super major holiday, and in the past, I used to always run personal questions in our polls instead of the more normal poll questions. While I'll still do that for Xmas week, I have found in the last few years that we really no longer see too much of a letup in voters for Thanksgiving week at all, other than on the day of the holiday itself (FYI, Thanksgiving is always held on the last Thursday of November, if you live elsewhere on Earth and don’t know that).

So for this week's question, we look at the wonderful cello, another interesting string instrument that many layman get confused with the double bass, since the 2 look similar. The cello is played usually sitting down, while the double bass bassist usually stands. A double bass is also larger than a cello, and both have 4 strings, but a cello is typically tuned in 5ths from low to high (C, G, D, and A), while basses are turned in 4ths (E, A, D, and G), with the low E being lower than the cello C. But while the 2 look alike, most think of the differences between a cello - and a violin, more so, in part since both are played with a bow. The primary difference between a cello and a violin is size. Again, the cello is normally played from a seated position with the instrument held between the legs, while the violin is held between the shoulder and the chin. The cello produces lower notes on the scale than the violin.

Unlike in last week's poll when we looked at the viola, an instrument not used a lot in Rock music; a cello is used a lot more than the viola in Rock music, but it isn't used as often as a violin is. Still we got 36 songs to look at, and yes, two Rock bands stood out as far as using many cellos in their songs, that being the later day Beatles, and even more so, the Electric Light Orchestra. Since we are looking at mainly hit songs (or better-known songs) that used a cello, the Fabs will have more song listed (6) than ELO (5) for this poll as far as choices goes, even if most of ELO's songs from the early years had cellos played on them.

Do note that on 5 of the songs that I have listed for this week’s first Rock poll, there's no cellist named, since there is no info on who played the part, but on all 5 I do know who arranged the cello for the song, so that person is noted instead, in this way: “Cello by ? (arrangement:* ) (*followed by the name of whoever that person was)”. The fact I don't know who the cellist is on these 5 songs, should not affect your vote, as there's no question as to the fact that a cello is played on the 5 songs listed and we are going by what we hear, not on who the cellist was, or for that matter, what song or artist you like the most. All that matters for this poll is the sound of the cello and nothing more. Now not to contradict myself from what I just noted above about only listing hit songs, one single song listed here was not a big hit nor was it that well known, with that song being Lew Reed's "Street Hassle" (it’s only somewhat known thanks to Bruce Springsteen's spoken words heard on it). Yet IMO, this tune has as great cello on it; as good or perhaps better than any of the other songs listed, and I listed it, since that’s the one that I wish to vote for, and chances are I'll be the only person to vote for it, too. But since I’m the poll’s webmaster, I can add in any choice that I feel needs to be in the poll.

So it’s time to vote on this week’s choices in the first poll. You can make your pick and vote in our first Rock poll, here: Classic Rock Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 1” to vote on this question.

For our second Rock poll for this week, we have the Rock Video poll, and the question will ask this: Rate The Monkees' Video for “Last Train To Clarksville” (Click here for the video)

“Last Train To Clarksville” The video comes from the Monkees TV show

I realized that for whatever reason, I haven't yet run a video poll for the Monkees when some other artists are now ready for their second video poll run (or already had a second poll held) as far as these video polls go. Heck, the Monkees were first and foremost made for TV and videos, not music, yet because they turned out to be a real band in time and had a great lead singer in Micky Dolenz, and 3 of the 4 members were actually true musicians (only Davie Jones, who was the second lead singer, wasn't), and after their second LP, they became a real rock band. But from the very beginning, one thing they were great at, was making music videos, even if there weren't such videos being made at the time yet, so yes, what they were making were half hour TV shows which in time, the songs played on those shows turned into what today we call rock videos.

For this week, we're go with one of their hit songs what many didn't realize was an anti-war song, really more so an anti-draft song, "Last Train To Clarksville". About a guy, really just a kid of draft age, who is setting up a rendezvous with his girlfriend before being forced to serve in war, thanks to the insane military draft, in the unjust and perhaps most insane war that the the U.S. ever got itself into, that being the Viet Nam war - of course, a war the U.S. lost, and the country also lost over 58,148 young lives, including young boys who was just becoming men, as 35% of them were 18 and 19 year old draftees forced to go to fight a war, thanks to the pigs Lyndon B. Johnson, and then his replacement, Richard Milhous Nixon, and also thanks to the insane U.S. draft that U.S. government pigs forced on all males once they hit age 18. So the song is about a guy about to head on over to Nam (a place that nobody in the U.S. even knew anything about before U.S. officials started a war there). These kids, including the boy in the song, really didn't know if they would ever be coming back home alive - or instead coming back in a body bag. But was it just about that? Some of us say no. The song had 2 meanings to it, or if you prefer, 2 sides to it – one that I just noted, but it was also about the "draft dodgers", who were forced to leave their country forever and flee to Canada (where most of them went), knowing that if they avoided the draft (and war), they would live and not die, but they also would never be allowed back home to America, so they too, had to say goodbye to their family and friends, since they too, even more so then those who went to Nam, weren’t coming back home - ever (Before 1977, 10% of those draftees who went to Nam, died there and didn't ever come home, but 100% of the kids who were draft dodgers weren’t allowed back home, either), going by what the law was at the time and how the WW1 and WW2 generations treated such people (again, really just 18 year old boys). But thanks to a great man and the most underrated U.S. president ever, Jimmy Carter, who was (still is) a member of the WW2 generation, the draft and death avoiding boys were finally pardoned by Carter and allowed back home in 1977, after most of the war loving WW1 generation was dead and the WW2 generation was starting to retire and die off themselves (to those who were around back in the 1960s, remember their BS line about the draft and what male war supporters would say to us Boomers "we fought for you in WW2 and now it's your turn to fight for us". Talk about a total BS line of crap! Note to remember: The Baby Boomers were not born yet when WW2 happened, so no, they didn't fight for the Boomers! They went to war in WW2 to fight and die for the WW1 generation that started the war (as Adolf Hitler and his sick people were from that generation), and then in the '60s, the WW2 generation tried to do the same BS war thing to the Baby Boomers, but the Boomers were different, and many of them (us) refused to be a part of the insane war machine and go to some country on the other side of the world we knew nothing about to die, and won’t go to fight in a war that was none of the U.S.'s business). Had 100% of the male Boomers allowed the government to draft them like sheep, that unjust sick war would had gone on for several more years with a lot more Boomers dying for absolutely nothing.

So the song was about both the boys who were forced to go to war - and those who were forced to go to Canada (18 year old females were never drafted back then since they were still looked at as second class citizens by the older males of that day who ran everything, and in their warped minds, "girls" didn't fight in wars, only men did, since they believed that men were superior to woman).

“Last Train To Clarksville” was the debut single for the Monkees, made before the group were a true band. The song was written by the writing team of Tommy Boyce and Bobby Hart, who also produced the song for the Monkees, and with both of them playing on the song, with Boyce on guitar and Hart on the keyboards. Dolenz sang the lead on this song (in fact, he sang all of the backing vocals on this one, too) - and on most of their biggest hits. "Last Train To Clarksville" was a giant hit, going all the way to #1 on the U/S. Billboard Hot 100 chart and also to #1 on the Billboard 200 chart for 13 weeks, starting on November 5, 1966. It also went to #1 in the UK, and in a few other countries, too. The tune was featured in seven different episodes of the band's TV series, the most for any Monkees song. I do not know who directed this clip. It is noted at YouTube that this is: "A re-edited song from The Monkees TV series. This is from episode 2 with adds from episode 3 and live shot from episode 32." What that doesn't tell us, is, was this edit done by the show's producers, or was it done by a fan? If edited by a fan, I'm very impressed, if done by the show's producers, it's still a great job never less.

To vote in this week’s Rock video poll, just click on this link: Classic Rock Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 2” to vote on this question.

Last week in the first Rock Poll we answered this question: What was the best played viola in a rock song?

A violin on top, with the viola below it. We voted on violas only last week!

Very close voting in this poll, and the song that lead for most of the week, didn’t hang on to win the poll, as it ended up in second to The Beatles “Eleanor Rigby”, with the violas played by Stephen Shingles and John Underwood. To find out which song that I just noted ended up in second, and where all the rest of the songs landed, too, you can do that by clicking on the following link, here: Classic Rock Poll, week 751, Poll 1. Plus, I’ll also place the poll’s result at the Rock Top 10 list page 16, you can check out this page by clicking on this link: Rock Top 10 list, 16.

Last week at the VS poll, where we voted on the last VS question until next spring, when I asked and you answered this question: Tie-breaker poll: “Free Bird” by Lynyrd Skynyrd vs “Stairway to Heaven” by Led Zeppelin. Which song is best?

VS

“Free Bird” vs “Stairway to Heaven” Which song is better?

Yes, we finally have an answer to this question!! You can find out which of these 2 giants hit songs got to the top spot by clicking on the following link: Classic Rock Poll, week 751, VS Poll. Or, to see the final results from this one at the VS list pages, just go here: VS Page 3, List Page 15. The results can be found at the very bottom of the page.

In our third Rock poll run last week, in the return of the Rock Video polls, we asked this: Rate Elvis Presley's Video for “Jailhouse Rock” (Click here for the video)

“Jailhouse Rock” The video comes from the movie of the same name.

The top rating for this cool video was a 10, with 49.5% of the vote, but not enough for scoring the second highest spot in the video standings as it looked last week it just might do that. It ended up in 4th place after all the votes were counted. You can click on the following link to see the final results from this poll: Classic Rock Poll, week 751, Video Poll. Or, to see the final results from this one at the Video standings list page, just go here: Video Standings list page. The standings can be found at the very top of the page.

We close out this week’s Poll Post by looking at the Beatles Poll. This week’s question is: Rate the artwork for the front cover of the Beatles EP Yesterday

Yesterday EP cover

Yesterday is an EP by the Beatles released on March 4, 1966 in the UK. However, this EP was also released in several other countries including Portugal, Spain and Brazil (but with another cover photo). As was almost always the case, this EP was not released in the States. This was the only EP where on the four songs included on the EP, each Beatle sang the lead vocal on one song each – McCartney on "Yesterday", Starr on "Act Naturally", Harrison on "You Like Me Too Much" and Lennon on "It's Only Love". Of course, this EP went to #1 on the main UK music chart and stayed there for 6 weeks.

For this one we even know who took the front cover photo used on the EP, as it was the famous Beatle and rock photographer, Robert Whitaker.

To vote in this week’s Beatle EP cover poll, just click on this following link: Beatles Weekly Poll.

Looking back at last week’s Beatles poll, we voted on this question: Rate the artwork for the front cover of the Beatles EP The Beatles' Million Sellers

The Beatles' Million Sellers EP cover

The top rating for this one was 10, with 33% of the vote. To see this poll’s final results, just go here: Beatles Weekly Poll – week 501Or to view the Beatles List Page that this one will show up on, click here: Beatles Album Covers List Page .

That does it for this week's Poll Post. So yes, what is usually my favorite holiday of the year, Thanksgiving, just won’t be the same this year thanks to the on-going and pretty much out of control COVID19 in the U.S., thanks to the asshole in the White House who is doing nothing at all to try to stop it from spreading. We are all being told not to invite anybody over to our homes for the holiday turkey dinner, and only have our Thanksgiving meal with those who we live with. Since my grandson moved out of the house to go live with his girlfriend a few months back, I’m now living alone here. So, according to the government, I should spend the day all alone? Bullshit, but while I won’t have over the usual 10 to 15 people that I have here for dinner, my oldest daughter and her old man, along with the grandson and his gal, will be here for dinner. Still, only 5 people for Thanksgiving this year will be the smallest gathering ever for me in my life, since my mother always had this holiday at our home when I was a kid, and she like I had around 20 plus people over every year, and then when I moved out and started living with my future wife, we also always had at least 10 or so people over for this holiday, and after her passing in 2011, I just kept on inviting family and friends over each year…. Up until this year anyway, as I won’t invite anybody but my family over. Well, as the main cook each year, this year I’ll be making a lot less food, to say the least.

I do hope all of my fellow Americans have a great Thanksgiving week regardless of the restrictions, and those of you living outside of the States have a happy week ahead, too! Oh, and thanks to all of you for voting in our polls!

Keno

• Poll Post for the week starting Monday, Nov 23 by Keno on 11/23/2020 1:36:54 AM <-- You Are Here
• RE: Poll Post for the week starting Monday, Nov 23 by pluto on 11/23/2020 8:25:04 AM
• RE: RE: It was a single for sure, just.....;. by Keno on 11/26/2020 1:36:46 AM
• RE: RE: RE: It was a single for sure, just.....;. by pluto on 11/26/2020 9:24:20 AM
• RE: It was a single for sure, just.....;. by Cool Cool Hand on 11/28/2020 8:06:45 AM

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