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Name: pluto
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Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Dunkirk
Date: Thursday, June 15, 2017
Time: 5:17:49 PM
Remote Address: 212.139.229.50
Message ID: 309133
Parent ID: 309126
Thread ID: 309021

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Dunkirk

....and it's a pleasure to talk to you too Ijasa......

......I don't know how many of today's generation here 'care about history', I would hope many, but who knows? I think if we're talking about WW2 then I can give a couple of examples that might indicate that elsewhere young people do, or are encouraged to remember the sacrifices made.......my parents were in the Soviet Union a few times during the Cold War, and there was a tradition that young people who had just got married went to a local war monument, and laid flowers.....my folks took pics of married couples doing that in Moscow and Kiev.....the Soviet Union is no more, but I think the tradition survives, at least in Russia........

....another example would be from a few years ago when I was in the Netherlands for a Stones gig in Nijmegen. My then wife, ex Gasser 'Love You Live' and myself, were staying in a small hotel on the outskirts of Arnhem (interesting story about that hotel, maybe for another time), and close to a graveyard for Allies killed during the abortive 'Market Garden' operation. Visiting that graveyard was a moving experience, and if I'm remembering correctly, it had been 'adopted' by a local school, and the pupils played their part in maintaining the place......so maybe that connection to recent history amongst youth is more evident in countries that were invaded and suffered greatly.

My Grandfathers fought in North Africa and Italy, but I don't remember them talking about it so they probably had similar feelings to your dad. I can understand that, I have a friend who's father was one of the troops who liberated Belsen. He never talked about it, but my friend is convinced he couldn't shake off the things he saw, and turned to the bottle. My dad was called up (drafted?) right at the end of the war, so missed any combat, and served his time in Greece, Palestine and India.

Ijasa, I want to pick up on a few of your other points but it's late, I need to crash. If I can I will post at some point tomorrow.

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